Separating “The Bitter” from “The Idiots”
Bill Maher’s “New Rules” video from the other night is over at Crooks and Liars. His take on “BitterGate” (where Obama offended elitists by saying bitter people are bitter about the way politicans like McCain, Hillary, Bush, etc., have fucked up regular peoples’ bitter lives with their policies, therefore causing the elitists to call Obama an elitist…) is nothing short of wonderful:
Referring to voters who America has left behind economically as “bitter” isn’t an insult. In fact, it’s a compliment, acknowledging that they’re smart enough to understand what’s happening to them. The hopeful, now those are some idiots. So let’s separate the bitter – my people – from the idiots. If you think the Democrats are going to take away your Bible, you’re an idiot. If you think they’re going to take away your gun, you’re an armed idiot. And if you think they’re going to take away your gun and give it to a Mexican to kill your God, you’re Bill O’Reilly.
Damn straight.
I’m fucking bitter, too, for the same reason Bill Maher is! (And you have to watch the video ’til the end to find out why that is.)
ALSO: Speaking of videos on Crooks and Liars, John Edwards was SO CUTE on Colbert the other night doing the “Word” segment! (Yes, that’s why I included this post in the “Sexy Menz” category, as well.)
April 21, 2008 at 11:46 pm
FUN-E video.
What’s wrong with the Bible though? He uses it like people who read it are uneducated fundie rubes.
50% of the time that’s NOT the case, all the time. =)
April 21, 2008 at 11:50 pm
no, he’s pointing out that Republican politicians try to convince people that the Democrats are going to somehow criminalize Christianity some day, that they’re “anti-God” or whatever, when really, that’s a bunch of bullshit and they know it.
but Bill Maher is a giant atheist, though. so, if you believe in God, you have to just let that slide.
it helps to just shake your head when he goes on one of his atheist rants and just go “Oh, Bill…”
because the rest of what he says is so entertaining, and so often painfully correct, that you wouldn’t want that one thing to keep you from hearing the other stuff he has to say.
April 22, 2008 at 12:06 am
I learned a long time ago not to throw out the truth of what someone is saying just because they’re not Christian. 2+2=4 regardless of who says it. Unfortunately not everyone gets this.
It’s too bad though, Atheists drive me INSANE. I keep it to myself though. I used to be one…so I don’t see the logic…(anymore) =)
I do think it’s a lie that democrats want to take away religious freedom. But I do not think it’s impossible, or that it won’t happen. I know it will.
Call it a Bible thing, but it always seems to happen to religious groups in history.
It goes both ways though. Religious groups strike back.
That’s why religion is horse dookie.
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 12:22 am
oh, Atheists drive me insane, too.
Just a fundamentalist of another kind…
As for the religious freedom issue, of course Democrats aren’t going to do that, but here’s where the issue gets confusing: those on the far right, like Dobson, Robertson, and all their lesser minions and plants in Congress, actually don’t believe in “religious freedom” as it’s specified and codified in the Constitution and in the larger set of laws of this country…they define “religious freedom” as being “free to never be offended by anything anyone else does” (kind of like Muslims with their cartooooooons), and “free to remake the American legal system to reflect their minority viewpoint on how things should or should not be.”
and THAT is beyond any reasonable limit of religious freedom.
April 22, 2008 at 1:03 am
Well yeah…
I agree with you.
However, I don’t think the GENERAL Christian lifestyle is a ‘minority view’. I don’t think that’s accurate at all to say. I think a fundamentalist viewpoint is however, a minority view. Of course, that’s the “Biblical” (read: I disagree with you) view. Right?
I worry about it from both ends though. Too much PC, and we’re screwed. Too much freedom and someone’s gotta lose. It’s really an imperfect system, because of….well….us. Humans.
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 1:34 am
i think the line is pretty simple to delineate, honestly:
does your religious practice impede my right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and all that entails?
April 22, 2008 at 2:31 am
Right, so Islams more radical teachings and writings should not be allowed. They definitely screw up my freedom. =)
I agree with you though, I do. We live in America, not Christiamerica Jesus Land (unfortunately….. not yet at least..muahaha), so we have to follow what America is founded on, and the laws thereof. And I agree, when it comes to ‘freedom of (anything)” it can’t bust those principles you stated above.
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 2:42 am
Well and i would even go as far as to say that there are MANY fundamentalist Muslims who don’t participate in terrorism (duh) and that they should be able to practice it in peace.
But yes, when they fly planes into buildings, then they’re definitely bothering me, and maybe we should stop fucking around in Iraq and go back to rooting out and weakening al-Qaeda, since it’s now at pre 9/11 strength.
Likewise, some on the far Christian right float this story that liberals (the assumption is that all liberals are non-Christians, obvi), actually want to impinge on their right to practice their conservative Christian faith in peace, and it’s like “nonononono, honey, lobbying your legislature to stop people you don’t know from getting married isn’t part of the free exercise of your religion, and if it is, YOU NEED A NEW RELIGION. also, you’re bothering me, and you’re infringing on MY rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of bbq, so fuck off.”
see?
it’s soooo simple.
haha.
April 22, 2008 at 2:50 am
Agreed. Except for the nasty f-off part. That’s mean. =)
April 22, 2008 at 2:52 am
Do you actually want to have a life long marriage with another man? Just curious. I mean, I would. Who wouldn’t? Afterall, I am married. Do most homosexuals want this, in your experience? You don’t have to answer. I’m just nosey =)
April 22, 2008 at 3:03 am
absolutely, whoever he may be. i’ve loved and lost and loved again, and i’ve learned a lot about what i’m looking for and what a marriage should be.
and i think a lot more young gay people (as in, under 40) aspire toward it than ever before, b/c we’re the generation where things have finally come out from underground and we’re free to realistically want the same thing as anybody else. but just as with anybody else, some understand the concept more than others, some take it more seriously than others, etc.
April 22, 2008 at 3:05 am
I expected as much. I mean, gay people are really no different than straight people, ’sept they like the same sex. Lots of straight people can’t commit, and I don’t doubt gay people are any different.
I hope you find what’s best for you.
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 3:08 am
i believe when you say “what’s best for you,” you’re referring to Josh Groban.
April 22, 2008 at 3:13 am
Ew.
Just…ew.
And my wife says ew too.
Jeeze dude…that nose? Come on.
Nice voice, but hell, I got a nice voice, but I’m better looking than that guy.
But then again, I hear what’s attractive to a gay man is totally different than what straight women find attractive.
And PS that’s NOT what I meant by ‘what’s best for you’. I totally wasn’t thinking Groban. I meant “what’s best for you according to what God in His infinite knowledge and love knows what is best for you and that He’ll guide you to it, whatever it is. And that’s how, most importantly, you will know it’s the best thing ever.”
April 22, 2008 at 3:20 am
see…
first of all, Tim’s wife agrees with me.
but that nose…well…i have a thing for Jews.
haha. yup!
“But then again, I hear what’s attractive to a gay man is totally different than what straight women find attractive.”
nah, that’s not quite it. everybody just has different taste.
but being a person who understands music more clearly than anything, that voice carries a LOT of weight with me.
and how do you know Groban isn’t the answer to your last paragraph?
it’s fine, he doesn’t know it yet, either.
also, Anderson Cooper would be fine.
April 22, 2008 at 3:29 am
oh, also? Josh Groban is a bona fide dork. that’s a requirement for me.
i like dorks.
April 22, 2008 at 3:30 am
Okay, so I don’t know. That’s why I made it vague. But you have to understand, I don’t think in terms of attractive men as answers to life’s happiness (LOL). I definitely was not thinking Josh Groban. My wife doesn’t think he’s perdy, but I never had a problem with his looks. But I’m kinda clueless anyways.
Anderson Cooper….hmmm. Dunno if he’s right for you man. Big wig news guy….you’re the artsy musicy type….
I found another artsy musicy type for me, because that’s what I am. Maybe you need the big wig news guy….
Who knows?!
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 3:31 am
Dorks eh?
Plenty of them. Cooper doesn’t strike me as a dork though. Uh oh…
Dork-ness IS attractive, that’s agreeable.
April 22, 2008 at 3:36 am
Yeah, Anderson probably would be a better fit for my best friend Jase.
But he is kind of a geek.
I honestly do need an artsy/musicy/dancy something kind of type.
But I do have a news guy thing, too. So…
Which kind of makes sense, b/c i have a “news” thing. So. Um.
Matt Lauer.
that’s another one.
and he’s also a total dork.
or that Azariah guy.
so many options…
i’m quite sure i’m not going to meet “him,” whoever he is, until after i move to NY.
(which probably means i’m going to have a fender-bender with “him” tomorrow and we’ll live happily ever after. it’s always when you’re not “looking.”)
April 22, 2008 at 3:56 am
I met my wife while mooning her while I (along with her and a bunch of mutual friends) were on our way to see a west side story performance in preperation of all of us performing in our our rendition of west side story in a few months.
Never saw that one coming.
Swoosh.
April 22, 2008 at 4:01 am
that is the gayest straight-meeting story i have ever heard in my entire life.
“well, you see, it all started with West Side Story…”
April 22, 2008 at 4:05 am
I KNOW RIGHT??
I thought you’d appreciate it. I’m glad to have a gay friend again, even if it’s only on blogs lol.
When I moved to Oklahoma in the military, I lost all my gay friends. So, you miss that slice of humor and gay stuff in your life. LOL.
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 4:10 am
where exactly in OK are you?
not all gays are awesome like me. some of ‘em are stupid.
all the gays i surround myself with are good, though.
and we all have really weird messed up senses of humour.
April 22, 2008 at 4:16 am
Oklahoma City. A suburb, called Midwest City.
I know not all gays are awesome. Just like not all humans are awesome, by human standards. Always gonna be some dinks out there.
April 22, 2008 at 4:23 am
there are lots of gays in OKC.
i mean, we migrate to cities…
but yeah, i’m definitely awesome.
haha.
April 22, 2008 at 4:27 am
LOL….what???
How humble of you!
I know there are. All I had to do was turn on the local news a few weeks ago to see how many. With good old Sally Kern stirring up the hornets nest and ‘becoming a hero’ by being a bigot. Only in America I say.
Where do you live..? Kentucky..right? Or Tennesee? I’m retarded and mix em up.
Joe
April 22, 2008 at 4:37 am
haha, i’m actually pretty humble.
i’m in Memphis.
just a straight shot down I-40.
April 22, 2008 at 5:08 am
Hey…we have an I-40 here too….
We talkin bout the same thang? LoL.
Hey…I got work, I’m gotta hit the hay. We’ll talk later man, cya!
Oh PS….
What’s a gay horse say?
Haaaaaaaaaaay…..
=)
April 22, 2008 at 5:09 am
yep! same I-40…just follow it east, past the Turnpike to Hell, i mean Tulsa, through Fort Smith, through Arkansas, cross the river, and there’s Memphis.
April 22, 2008 at 5:12 am
That’s what Jesus was talking about….
The fire is not quenched and the worm does not die…in Tulsa.
One of my old buddies who used to live here, now lives outside of Memphis. I think. I get it all confused. lol.
Night Ev!
April 22, 2008 at 4:18 pm
you know, it’s funny, the whole “i have a thing for jews” must be genetic. because i love me some shiksas.
April 22, 2008 at 4:19 pm
you know, it’s funny, the whole “i have a thing for jews” thing must be genetic.
because i love me some shiksas.
April 22, 2008 at 4:40 pm
haha, double comments
CRAP
April 22, 2008 at 5:15 pm
it may be genetic. i dunno.
b/c it wasn’t like we were CONSTANTLY exposed to Jews growing up. i mean, i always went to school with Jewish people, and we had Jewish neighbors, but it wasn’t like i was looking next door at Jimmy Barrasso and going “oh that’s right schwing.”
April 22, 2008 at 10:01 pm
yea, but when i saw julie again in 2003 (for the first time since they’d moved), it was definitely a “schwing” moment.