Oh, speaking of whacked-out Fundamentalists, have you heard about Sarah Palin’s dominionist connections?
Sarah Palin is the weirdest kind of Christian — the fucked up Assembly of God kind whose church has connections to Joel’s Army. What’s Joel’s Army? “It’s a movement by radical Dominionists to build an informal paramilitary organization (at this time, it seems to be more attitude than organization) to prepare to fight to impose a kind of Christian fascism on the world.”
Even run-of-the-mill Evangelicals are creeped out by these people.
Go read this article about Joel’s Army and Todd Bentley. I’ll excerpt the first bit here:
LAKELAND, Fla. — Todd Bentley has a long night ahead of him, resurrecting the dead, healing the blind, and exploding cancerous tumors. Since April 3, the 32-year-old, heavily tattooed, body-pierced, shaved-head Canadian preacher has been leading a continuous “supernatural healing revival” in central Florida. To contain the 10,000-plus crowds flocking from around the globe, Bentley has rented baseball stadiums, arenas and airport hangars at a cost of up to $15,000 a day. Many in attendance are church pastors themselves who believe Bentley to be a prophet and don’t bat an eye when he tells them he’s seen King David and spoken with the Apostle Paul in heaven. “He was looking very Jewish,” Bentley notes.
Tattooed across his sternum are military dog tags that read “Joel’s Army.” They’re evidence of Bentley’s generalship in a rapidly growing apocalyptic movement that’s gone largely unnoticed by watchdogs of the theocratic right. According to Bentley and a handful of other “hyper-charismatic” preachers advancing the same agenda, Joel’s Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force of young people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian “dominion” on non-believers.
“An end-time army has one common purpose — to aggressively take ground for the kingdom of God under the authority of Jesus Christ, the Dread Champion,” Bentley declares on the website for his ministry school in British Columbia, Canada. “The trumpet is sounding, calling on-fire, revolutionary believers to enlist in Joel’s Army. … Many are now ready to be mobilized to establish and advance God’s kingdom on earth.”
I’ve always said Christian Right crazies are on the same road as radical Muslim terrorists, they just haven’t quite gotten to mass-killing and martyrdom yet. Oh, but they will. These are your future Christian terrorists, America. They, their minions, and their silent supporters (Palin?) have no business being anywhere near elected office in this country, much less the second-highest office in the land.
I repeat: Sarah Palin has connections to these people. Her church has connections to these people. Her church believes this way.
I’ve written about Todd Bentley before here.
August 31, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Thank you for this information.
August 31, 2008 at 9:42 pm
If you want to bring that up, remember the damage Rev Wright did to Obama. I think your problem is you confuse a woman who is, as Glenn Beck puts it, “realistically socially conservative” with Michelle Obama, who believes in “blacks first, blacks second, blacks third… Whites are the devil”. In any event, I think the you just don’t like religion to begin with and are grasping at straws here. If not Wright, we can bring up Obama’s connections to Bill Ayers and his wife, domestic terrorists who hate society, or Anthony “Tony” Rezko who was just convicted on political corruption charges.
I will repeat, if you will convict Palin on this, then you better hang Obama on his “transgressions.”
August 31, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Yeah, but the problem is that, aside from the AIDS thing, which was crazy:
1. Most of what Wright said was TRUE, but poor widdle Amurkans whose patriotism is so thin it’s tied into believing Amurka is beyond reproach couldn’t handle it.
2. Fundamentalist white pastors say crazier things every day of their lives.
3. Your ideas about Michelle Obama are laughable at best. I’m sorry you’re not smart enough to understand the big words and ideas in her thesis.
4. No one cares about Bill Ayers who did something naughty when Obama was 8, just like no one cares about all the other people, mostly Republicans, who served on the same board.
5. No one has ever been able to prove or even suggest wrongdoing on Obama’s part re: Rezko.
6. The Ass. of God/Joel’s Army are an actual movement, unlike Jeremiah Wright, so said something that, again, hurt your widdle feelings one time.
To sum up:
You are a fucking idiot.
September 1, 2008 at 4:48 am
really, go to the ag.org website and search for Joel’s army. You’ll find that the teaching of “Joel’s Army” as you describe here is deemed by the AOG as extra-Biblical and is discouraged from being used the fellowship.
From section 16 of their by-laws:
D, That we disapprove of Latter Rain doctrines and practices such as “impartation,” “birthing,” “Joel’s Army,” and the “five-fold ministries” taught as “offices” with “predictive prophecy,” and other extraneous teachings “which, being unfounded scripturally, serve only to break fellowship . . . and tend to confusion and division.”
Even yet, the teaching of Joel’s Army that you are referring to isn’t speaking of a physical military take-over. It is a teaching of warfare in a spiritual realm through prayer and fasting. No human military force has been or will ever be involved with this teaching.
There are all sorts of twists and turns that take genuine Biblical teaching and turn it into whacked-out junk. I heard it said like this: “Any truth taken to extreme will become error.”
The doctrinal teachings of the Assemblies of God are not much unlike the teachings of the African-American churches that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama embrace. For some reason, the liberal media doesn’t cover these same doctrines in those churches in the way they have with the churches of the likes of Ashcroft and Palin.
Religious backgrounds should NEVER be used as a negative against a candidate – would anyone really want to go on record discriminating against a candidate because of religious affiliation? We wouldn’t because of their gender or race… I thought America was beyond that?
September 1, 2008 at 4:54 am
Yeah, the A of G has been having to run interference because of the bad press of Joel’s Army.
A of G people believe really messed up shit.
“The doctrinal teachings of the Assemblies of God are not much unlike the teachings of the African-American churches that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama embrace. For some reason, the liberal media doesn’t cover these same doctrines in those churches in the way they have with the churches of the likes of Ashcroft and Palin.”
Because the existence of the liberal media has been proven to be a myth concocted by conservative demagogues as a paper tiger for you people to fight against, okthxbye…
“Religious backgrounds should NEVER be used as a negative against a candidate – would anyone really want to go on record discriminating against a candidate because of religious affiliation? We wouldn’t because of their gender or race… I thought America was beyond that?”
Nope, because you wouldn’t vote for an atheist, would you?
Don’t fool yourself by pretending that America is beyond these things, and don’t fool yourself into believing that the media didn’t go after Obama’s religion in an over-obsessive way. Just don’t fool yourself.
Anyway.
Ass. of God. Ugh.
Yay, we all pretend to speak in tongues!
September 1, 2008 at 5:31 am
[...] Along with 232 year old Samuel Adams, 224 year old William Whipple, 211 year old Thomas Jefferson, and others, they did what needed to be done, putting Dominion first. [...]
September 1, 2008 at 6:34 am
clancop:
your handle says it all … bring up whatever the hell you want to bring up … McCain/Palin are going nowhere fast … once upon a time JM was half respectable; this choice of SP shows it sure ain’t “country first” with him … just an incredibly reckless choice
September 1, 2008 at 6:45 am
On another post, KlanKop spelled “Mein Kampf” like this: Mien Kompf. He also claimed he had read Barack Obama’s book, which was probably another one of his lies.
Lotsa the funny these days in the comments sections.
September 3, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I have to disagree with you on the Assemblies of God being the weirdest types of Christians out there. Assembly of God is all 100% bibilical. Now, granted, there may be some over-the-top radicals who are more for the fame and the money, but as a whole, that is not what the Assemblies of God church is. Go to the the A/G home website and get your information, then you can make an informed decision. I am an Assemblies of God member and I love the Lord, my church, my family and my country. I lead a very normal life….I am not radical in my behavior, but I am radical in my faith. I trust God in and for everything. This is a bizaar concept for many, but this is how a true Christian is to live. Our faith is in God and in God alone! I wish people would do their homework before judging an entire group of people!
Thank you for letting me speak my mind and may God bless this great nation and the great people of this nation!
September 4, 2008 at 12:38 am
Again, to stereo-type a whole group of people from “information” found on the Interent is comical. Get you facts straight in the initial post, instead of trying to cover up the holes in your argument in the comments. Just as easily as those lies were posted, others could have been posted in the information you researched. I too am Assembly of God Christian, and take serious offense to the “facts” posted here. Kat, Good job for standing up.
September 4, 2008 at 12:40 am
So, do you ladies do that thing with your tongues at church?
Uh-huh.
Deal with it.
September 4, 2008 at 12:40 am
Also? I posted video of Moosebreath talking to her old A of G church.
Nutso shit.
September 4, 2008 at 1:13 am
Hm… That’s it…Make fun of something if you don’t (care) to understand it.
September 4, 2008 at 1:13 am
Great M.O.
September 4, 2008 at 1:22 am
Nope, I know all about it.
I was raised evangelical.
Even among evangelical circles, A of G is “different.”
September 4, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Hey Evan…………
You look like a faggot.
September 4, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Awesome, so…wanna fuck?
September 4, 2008 at 7:57 pm
…um, wow. And you were raised evangelical? Well…
September 4, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Luckily, I grew out of it.
September 4, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Well, just to let you know, ypu can’t grow out of a relationship with God. You can totally forsake Him, but He never forsake you. If you had a true relationship with God, you could’t have grown out of it. He doesn’t turn from His children.
September 4, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I said I grew out of being an Evangelical Christian, I said nothing about God.
September 4, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Oh, okay… So you still believe in Jesus Christ, being prt of the Holy Trinity, being born of a virgin, living, dying and raising from the dead as 100% man and 100% God?
September 4, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Don’t know about all that.
I go back and forth on some of those things, argue with myself.
I’m constantly questioning.
September 4, 2008 at 8:10 pm
ok… You believe in the God of the Bible, right?
September 4, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I believe there is something out there bigger than us.
Probably far more than we will ever understand.
September 4, 2008 at 8:14 pm
So have you considered any religions? Or do you think we’re supposed to live our lives on our own?
September 4, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Um…
Well, I’m fine with spirituality, but right now I’m not really interested in adopting any kind of specific dogma. I believe in the existence of something greater, but I also believe that religious dogma was created by humans, so…
I’m not opposed to religion, per se…but at the same time, I’m extremely skeptical about signing on to the belief systems of one or another. I think belief, when we really stop to consider it, is a much more fluid and changing thing then we’re ever taught to admit.
September 4, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Ok… If there was something else…something greater out there than ourselves, wouldn’t you want to learn more about it? You are obviously and educated person, so doesn’t that intrigue you just a little? I’m not trying to covert you… I’m just bringing up some questions. If there is a God, then what’s the harm learning more about him? Obviously some people think he is, or else thee would be almost no religions! Darwin studied Theology. Many people have studied theology just to understand what all the hype is about, not to become a believer. Many do, however, become believers, so there’s got to be something that exists…
September 4, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Believe me, I’ve questioned this stuff inside and out. I’m QUITE intrigued by all religious traditions, and I think it’s fascinating.
Where I draw the line, at least at this point in my life, is at accepting the dogma as literally true. Where I am, I need to be spiritually fed without the dogma, so I’m open to wisdom from all kinds of places.
I’m just, as I said, very reluctant to put a label on things and say “this is what God is like,” partially because I suspect that nobody on Earth is really actually correct about all these things.
September 4, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Ok… Do you believe that God can inspire us?
September 4, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Well…not in the prophetic way I would assume you mean.
But I do believe that God or source or whatever it is…can commune with us. I’m a composer, so I’ve experienced that.
September 4, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Forget the whole Biblical stand point..Do you think God can inspire us?
Like with inventions, art, and yes, as you said, music?
September 4, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Yeah, that’s what I meant.
Though I see it more as a combination of inspirational forces, and it’s not just God. It’s partially me, partially God, etc…like I said, I don’t doubt the existence of something out there, but I just don’t feel the need to label it.
September 4, 2008 at 8:39 pm
okay…so, the purpose of this inspiration by, whatever it is, would be what?
September 4, 2008 at 8:42 pm
To share it with others. So other could listen to the music, admire the artwork, use the inventions. So then, if this force can inspire us with music, why cant it inspire us with truth, whatever that might be?
September 4, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I dunno.
Seriously, you’re probably not going to get that far with this particular line of questioning. I fall somewhere between Agnostic and Deist on the spectrum, though with a lot of Christian influence, just because that’s how I grew up. I have my more Christian days, I have days where Native American faiths appeal to me, I have days where I’d like to kick religion out the door entirely…
I do feel like there is a communicative aspect to god/the gods/goddesses/spirits/whatever it is. I don’t think that God needs me to ascribe to a particular set of beliefs, but rather I sense that God desires to commune with us.
This all may sound strange and confusing, but really, like I said, my spiritual beliefs are kind of in flux, and have been for a while.
September 4, 2008 at 8:50 pm
“So then, if this force can inspire us with music, why cant it inspire us with truth, whatever that might be?”
Aha, well here’s the thing about that.
Because I have my own perspective, my own genetic code, my own code of experiences and memories, my own vocabulary, tastes, stylistic tendencies, ways of saying things, etc., then when the source, the muse, whatever, is really there when I’m writing, it’s a give-and-take process. When I start writing a song, for instance, it’s usually a random melody, or a couplet, or something small that comes to me first, and I have to kind of put in the effort to figure out where that’s going. I had a weird little melody and line running through my dreams last night, for instance, and I haven’t really had a chance to sit down and work with it.
Now let’s say you were a composer, too, and you got that same little weird melody, etc…you would take it somewhere entirely different from where I would, because of YOUR experiences, code, and so on.
So…in the same way, I believe we can be inspired by that source in life as well, but I don’t believe it’s going to be a 100% objective absolute truth any more than the songs you and I wrote based on the same string of information would sound 100% the same.
September 4, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Well, it’s not confusing, but Iask myself this question: If this being can be reached through all these different rligions, why wouldn’t have he inspired all the different peoples and cultures in the same way? Why, then, is there Jesus, Mohammed, Isis, Zeus, Mars, Satan, Mother Earth and all these different things? To suit or likes and dislikes? If the bieng’s sole purpose is to suit our likes, then why are there natural disasters? Why do we die? If the same god is reached through all of these religions, all being true, why do they have different standards? Why are you allowed to kill in one, not in the other, but be justified in the fact that it came from the same being?
Why do different religions have conflicts between each other, if they all lead to the same god? So, some days when you are feeling the Native American faith, and some days when you are feeling Christian, you tend to believe in the standards of those faiths? One says the other isn’t true; one says child sacrifice and adultery is okay; one says there are many different ways to get to heaven… do you believe everything and nothing?
September 4, 2008 at 8:59 pm
That was in response to the post before, and this is to the response after. I am an artist, so I understand what you mean when you say you get an idea. But, if there are no absolute truths, how dod you know the ideas are yours…how dod I know mine are mine? How do I know that they weren’t INSPIRED by the being?
September 4, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Well, I don’t think it’s about suiting our “likes or dislikes,” actually. I think we have individual DNA, but we also have cultural DNA, and different cultures are going to interpret this same force differently, and of course, name it differently.
And honestly? The faiths’ differences are not THAT huge when it comes to common sense right and wrong — obviously there are cultural elements to all of them. For instance, when we look back at the Judaic law, much of it is insane to our 21st century perspective. Similarly, we look back at Native American faiths of the same time and see some of their practices and say “what?” (like the human sacrifice you mention). However, I would argue that both of them also have IMMENSE wisdom contained in their messages, and as I see it, where truth probably starts to shine through is in the common themes where they start to overlap.
So, I think this is the mistake people make when they talk about people believing that “all religions are true”: I actually believe that, most likely, NO religion is 100% true, but that if we’re honestly seeking, we can wade through the cultural stuff and find overarching truths.
As to why religions have conflicts with each other, part of the history of religion is that it’s been used to control populations, elevate certain peoples, and subjugate others. That’s just the nature of the beast. I think it’s nothing short of ridiculous that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are fighting over that dumb strip of sand in the Middle East. That’s where I say “okay, back up — regardless of whether you, on a spiritual level, believe that God promised something to you, you cannot, cannot, CANNOT conduct yourself and make geopoltiical decisions based on those beliefs, because guess what, your opposition believes the SAME THING.”
As to believing “everything and nothing,” I would say that there are different levels of belief. As in, on a certain level I do believe that the pantheon of religious belief is true, but not on the same level of belief as I believe I’m sitting on my computer right now. I believe the cultural icons and archetypes we create are powerful and take on lives of their own that thread through our cultures and make them very real. But do I believe Athena is really out there, or Mary, Mother of God, or Krishna, like in a literal form? Eh. Not sure about that.
September 4, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Who then, establishes the principles are right and wrong? Why do all of these people, cultures, and religions have the same basis? If it was just instinct, then how was that instinct put in us? And if evoultion is true, where in the transition between man and monkey did this “instinct” come
?
September 4, 2008 at 9:22 pm
So, then if you believe in all these different aspects of these religions, nd there are no absolute truths, why do you say that Assembly of Gad Christians are “whacked out.” I’m sure some native American religions are more extreme…
September 4, 2008 at 9:23 pm
See, I don’t buy the concept that humans need religion to establish right and wrong.
Humans, for the most part, just know it. Whether we follow it is up to us. But common sense is called that for a reason. It’s common to all of us.
Now, let me clear up a misconception real quick: evolution doesn’t show that man evolved from monkeys, but rather that we share a common ancestor. That’s very different, but people who don’t “believe in” evolution throw it up all the time to expose the supposed silliness of evolution. Here’s the thing, though: the science is in on evolution. Real scientists don’t disagree on the concept at all. They might disagree on very specific aspects, etc., and test and retest and question each other, because that’s how science works. But there is no fundamental controversy. The evidence for evolution is overwhelming.
Now, to answer your second part, we don’t know exactly how that all evolved, but humans aren’t the only creatures that understand common behavior. Our “instincts” may be much more highly evolved, but other creatures have them. I do agree that humans are separate in a way from the rest of the creatures because we do have the capacity to commune with that which is outside ourselves, greater than ourselves, but as far as the rest, I dunno.
Here’s my issue: that common sense of right and wrong that we all have? It still doesn’t align exactly with the specific mores of any religious belief system, including Christianity. There are rules and laws in Christianity that actually seem to be quite irrelevant to the common understanding of right and wrong, especially as the common understanding grows to understand science and the universe more and more. Same thing with Islam, same with Native American faiths, etc.
September 4, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Because I personally believe that taking any religion too far to the extreme, too literally, is a recipe for disaster.
September 4, 2008 at 9:24 pm
And also, I have been an Assembly of God Christian all my life, and have never heard of “Joel’s Army.” I am not blindy and silently supporting this organization… so back to my original point. It is ludicrious to call an entire group of people “whacked out.”
September 4, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Really? what evidence for evolution?
September 4, 2008 at 9:27 pm
And… what rules and laws are irrelevant in Christianity? None that I have come across…
September 4, 2008 at 9:48 pm
1. The evidence for evolution is absolutely overwhelming, and it’s been confirmed time and time again, in labs, in observing nature…start here: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-research.html And seriously, understand, ALL real scientists acknowledge evolution. They don’t “believe in” it because it’s not something to be “believed in,” it’s something that simply is.
2. As far as rules and laws that are irrelevant — granted different sects within Christendom interpret things differently — but I was raised, partly, in a Calvinist Presbyterian church. They are strict about women not holding positions of authority over men, because they are obsessed with Paul, therefore women can’t be elders, deacons, pastors…it serves no purpose, it’s contrary to what we understand about the equality of men and women, biologically, etc…but yet they cling to it. Some Christians believe it’s a sin to use curse words, due to their interpretation of the verses about coarse language, yet this ignores the fact that “coarse language” is culturally determined, and also obscures the fact that words are really just words, and what matters more is the motivation behind the words. As I’m saying, so many of these things are cultural.
3. Maybe I shouldn’t have worded it the way I did…my intention, with the modifying phrase, “Assembly of God kind whose church has connections to…” was to specifically call out THAT kind of Assembly of God believer. I’m glad you’ve never heard of Joel’s Army. It’s really creepy. It’s also come largely out of the AoG. Look, I had this discussion with a friend the other night — I have no problem with peoples’ religious beliefs, as long as they don’t use them to hurt other people. That’s the point where your (or my) religious freedom ends and my (or your) constitutional freedoms begin. So, my friend is an Orthodox Christian, and while I find many of the precepts of his religion to be quite odd, and he knows this (haha), he also doesn’t use his religion as a club against other people. Many fundamentalist believers, of all religions, do, and have done for eons.
September 5, 2008 at 12:26 am
Yes, microevolution is true, but there is absolutely NO proven evidence for macroevolution. And yes they acknowledge it, but it is a THEORY and should not be taught as science. We should be well educated on theories, but not blindly accept them.
I do not have a problem with women in authority, as I support Gov. Palin; I also don’t have problem with women in authority in the church. I believe he was addressing the problem of women making disruptions during church. They were uneducated, and therefore had to have everything explained, disrupting the service. So, he thought women should remain silent.
It does say that curse words or coarse language wasn’t acceptable. Coarse language doesn’t mean curse words exactly… It means inappropriate language. Cursing in the Bible refers to cursing God; blaspheming Him by saying He did something evil, or giving Satan credit for something God did.
And yes, thank you for wording it differently…You might want to reword the opening statments…Initially, I took serious offense. I’ve enjoyed this talk. Thank You. and yes…you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
September 5, 2008 at 12:35 am
No, that’s something that pretend Christian “scientists” say — macroevolution doesn’t mean what they say it means. Scientists will attest to the fact that macroevolution is just as prevalent as microevolution. One builds on the other.
Also?
You need to understand what “theory” means. A scientific “theory” is an accepted scientific fact. Gravity is a theory. Relativity is a theory. Evolution IS the scientific consensus, and anyone who tells you differently is lying. All of those Discovery institute people? Liars. Simple as that.
September 5, 2008 at 1:53 am
No, a scientific LAW is accepted as a fact. A theory must be proved to be a law. And it’s the LAW of gravity, the LAW of Thermodynamics. And how does macroevolution build upon microevolution? Please explain it to me. I’ve never studied macroevolution, so I don’t know; I have, however, studied macroevolution in comparison with Creation, but other than that…
September 5, 2008 at 1:59 am
It’s not quite the same thing.
Check out this link for what a theory really is, in science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#Science
September 5, 2008 at 2:00 am
And i’ll get to the macro thing later, but the gist of it is that macroevolution is what happens when microevolution results in enough changes that the species becomes fundamentally different.
September 5, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Interesting read Evan…I don’t know anything about Joel’s Army, but I’m reading about it now. The connection between some A of G churches and Joel’s Army seems to be undeniable, possibly including Palin’s church. What does this mean? I wonder, do you believe that Obama follows the same tenets as Rev. J Wright? Meaning, because Obama sat under Wright for 20 years, is Obama beholden to all the same beliefs?
Some of the above responses are absurd. God loves ALL of his creations. That includes every man, woman, and child that has ever lived. This includes you Evan. Don’t be deceived that you luckily ‘grew out’ of your faith…rather, you have faith of another kind. You must now believe that God didn’t save you, that Jesus didn’t die for your sins, and that life must exist for another purpose. You must have *faith* in that too…God is real and, luckily, we still have time to examine the truth.
September 5, 2008 at 5:01 pm
ayo Evan:)
Here is a great website you should check out.
Enjoy and GOD BLESS YOU
http://www.demographicwinter.com/index.html
September 5, 2008 at 5:06 pm
check out the trailer
September 5, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Quiverfull?
Hahahahahaha
Wow.
We are makin’ an army for the lord! An army of banjo players! Banjo players! And bigots! Major bigots! Banjo playin’ bigots! Without education! Banjo playin’ bigots without education!
Somehow I think the Lord would return that kind of army for store credit.
September 5, 2008 at 5:50 pm
The Wright comparison isn’t valid, and here’s why:
Joel’s Army is fucked up because they take particularly warcraft-ish parts of the bible way too literally and they’re acting on it.
Aside from the silly thing Jeremiah Wright said about AIDS, his “offensive” statements were only offensive to those with such paper-thin and flatulent patriotism that it hurts them to hear that the United States is not perfect.
You see, Jeremiah Wright’s statements about the chickens coming home to roost weren’t waxing warcraft about apocalytpic religious texts, they were showing a keen understanding of the geopolitics of the last century or so.
And that’s different!
All through that whole “scandal,” my only reaction was what I just said, and “well thank God he’s not a fundamentalist.”
Because fundamentalist white pastors say crazier things every day they wake up.
As to being “deceived,” about growing out of my earlier faith, are you honestly implying that it hasn’t been my own intellectual searching and spiritual seeking, but rather the Big Red Boogeyman with the Pitchfork and the Attitude Problem has been secretly “tempting” and “deceiving” me?
Because that kind of mindset seems so strange to me.
September 5, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Give me a spieces that has become fundamentally different…
September 5, 2008 at 9:44 pm
over the course of billions of years?
did you read the link I gave you?
the fact that whales evolved from terrestrial creatures…fossils found of whales with legs…
and then there’s evolution in the reverse direction with amphibians…
September 6, 2008 at 2:03 pm
really? proven beyond a shodow of a doubt that the skeletons are true?
September 6, 2008 at 2:05 pm
NOt just another Piltdown man incident?
September 6, 2008 at 3:28 pm
No, science doesn’t do “beyond a shadow of a doubt,” but contrary to what you’ve been told, there’s no controversy among real scientists.
October 13, 2008 at 1:49 am
Thank you for linking to “Falwell was an Agent of Intolerane; what was Palin, John?” as an automatic reference.
I see you linked to an incorrect page. Change it to
http://wallwritings.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/falwell-was-an-agent-of-intolerance-so-what-is-palin/
What you got was my home page.
Thanks, James M. Wall for wallwritngs.wordpress.com
October 13, 2008 at 4:31 am
This all coming from the mentally handicapped who believed that only the right can be dictators. Guess you forgot about Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Che, Castro, Chavez, etc
Even HItler was a socialist, National Socialist Party (Nazi in German), except he didn’t turn on big business when he took power. He got the Krupps and others working for him instead of nationalizing them.
Obama is also trying to push Raila Odinga into power, a radical Islamic socialist who’s supporters killed 1500 in Kenya last year. Brilliant deduction you twits…
October 13, 2008 at 4:40 am
God, you believe everything you read on wingnut blogs.
Retard.
October 13, 2008 at 4:41 am
It’s too bad they didn’t give Jerome Corsi the death penalty.
OH WELL.
October 13, 2008 at 4:47 am
Wow, far-left twit calling for the death of an Obama critic. Wingnut blogs? I read that in a history book, one of the many I studied from during University.
Also, spending time in China, I can tell you that your dedication to him is disturbingly familiar to the “cult of personality” which the late Chairman Mao still enjoys. Pathetic…
Don’t get angry now, you might just blurt out something racist again, but it comes as no surprise, Democrats did endorse slavery, create the KKK and establish the Jim Crow laws. Keep the proud tradition going strong…
October 13, 2008 at 4:50 am
I was kidding about Jerome Corsi, you stupid Canadian who must be pretty fuckin’ lonely being such a retard in a progressive nation such as that.
October 13, 2008 at 4:51 am
Glad to know you’re still secretly obsessed with my blog, though, Mister Lonely boy.
October 13, 2008 at 5:01 am
Progressive? You’re serious right? We have the Conservatives in government right now, Prime Minister Stephan Harper, a man who is expected to stay in power following this election with another minority government.
I guess you are speaking about place like Vancouver where they are smoking enough weed to make Amsterdam blush. Ottawa isn’t like that at all, but of course you wouldn’t know that would you? Quebec City as well as Calgary and Edmonton also share a strong conservative base, something you obviously didn’t read on the Huffington Post.
Joking? Hardly. I check on your website from time to time, see the crazy things you write, see you threatening people you don’t like, see your blatant hypocrisy in action, calling critics of Obama racist and fascists. Republicans aren’t KKK members, Senator Byrd, a Democrat, was a Grand Wizard for that group.
Lonely? Hardly. I spent yesterday with my friends at a house warming party. The catholic priest came over to bless the house, as was with Filipino tradition, then we celebrated over beer, the hockey game and kareoke (flips love kareoke). I guess you get lonely though, masturbating to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. It is obvious you have an unhealthy obsession with them, but a few of your last posts have gone too far.
October 13, 2008 at 5:03 am
Progressive? You’re serious right? We have the Conservatives in government right now, Prime Minister Stephan Harper, a man who is expected to stay in power following this election with another minority government.
I guess you are speaking about place like Vancouver where they are smoking enough weed to make Amsterdam blush. Ottawa isn’t like that at all, but of course you wouldn’t know that would you? Quebec City as well as Calgary and Edmonton also share a strong conservative base, something you obviously didn’t read on the Huffington Post.
Joking? Hardly. I check on your website from time to time, see the crazy things you write, see you threatening people you don’t like, see your blatant hypocrisy in action, calling critics of Obama racist and fascists. Republicans aren’t KKK members, Senator Byrd, a Democrat, was a Grand Wizard for that group.
Lonely? Hardly. I spent yesterday with my friends at a house warming party. The catholic priest came over to bless the house, as was with Filipino tradition, then we celebrated over beer, the hockey game and kareoke (flips love kareoke). I guess you get lonely though, masturbating to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. It is obvious you have an unhealthy obsession with them, but a few of your last posts have gone too far.
October 13, 2008 at 6:01 am
Um, glad to know about all the things you did today.
And when have I “threatened” people who disagree, per se? (That’s Latin)
Anyway.
Your grasp on history is poor, your understanding of American politics is poor, I’m aware that Canada also has embarrassing places full of stupid mouthbreathers, like Alberta and Saskatchewan, and that, like the United States, the smart people congregate near the water to get away from the filth.
Also, the word is spelled k-a-r-a-o-ke, and, um…what else…
Oh, I don’t read HuffPost that often…I mean, it’s one of many sites I read, but I know that interferes with the right-wing retard’s conception of what liberals do, so continue on with your thumb up your ass, whatever.
Your mother must be proud of her stupid baby.
October 13, 2008 at 7:02 am
Stupid baby? I have a degree in economics and I am going into law school. Guess you didn’t research that. Didn’t do my research on American politics? You sure? Jefferson Davis, Democrat, pushed for the expansion of slavery and when that didn’t work, formed the Confederate forces and attacked Fort Sumter, starting the American Civil War. Former Confederate (Democrat) soldiers formed the KKK, and among their first acts of terrorism, they killed Republicans who fought against slavery like Congressmen James M. Hinds. Woodrow Wilson, a “Progressive” Democrat, pushed for the Jim Crow laws, push these laws through his administration to assure that Americans were “separate but equal”, one of the tenets of the Redeemer Democratic state governments. Do the research, my history is solid.
Alberta is filth? My friend you would get your ass kicked if you said that to a resident of Calgary, especially during the Calgary Stampede. Hell, the women there would kick your ass for less than that. That province is also among the wealthiest in our country, but you didn’t know that did you? Smart people surrounding water? Ottawa is the central hub of power, now overrun by the Conservative government. Guess you are right there, they sure did congregate around the water, the Ottawa River and the Rideau Canal. Once again, Stephan Harper and the Conservatives are in power, and you have just proven again how little you know about my country. Stop while you’re “ahead” (very behind really), it is getting pathetic now.
Don’t read Huffington Post eh? You sure about that? I do see Daily Kos links, even worse, and I have seen you bring up HuffPo stories like Palin’s baby and her church attendance, both stories covered on Arianna’s website. Hmmm… Well I guess with crazies like you, mainstream crazy isn’t good enough at times, and you decide to go off the deep end more often than not by sourcing the DKos website. Nice…
While spelling isn’t my strong suit, I do have the facts while you stick to the loopy fiction. Don’t forget Senator Robert Byrd next time you want to connect the Republicans to the KKK. He is just a reminder of your blatant hypocrisy.
Oh and Barack Obama, that hope and change he is promising? Is that with or without Kenyan genocide?
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/